Comments on: Mobile Phones Killing Bees? http://todbrilliant.com/mobile-phones-killing-bees/ Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:58:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: todb http://todbrilliant.com/mobile-phones-killing-bees/#comment-9997 todb Thu, 06 Dec 2007 23:52:59 +0000 http://todbrilliant.com/mobile-phones-killing-bees/#comment-9997 <p>Way to invoke Kolbert! I very highly recommend her book, "Field Notes from a Catastrophe" as one of the great books on the environment. As in, far more insightful than anything Gore has published ... and far more soulful. </p> <p>Parents who let their youngsters use cellular phones ought to be jailed. You hear that, N? Heh.</p> Way to invoke Kolbert! I very highly recommend her book, “Field Notes from a Catastrophe” as one of the great books on the environment. As in, far more insightful than anything Gore has published … and far more soulful.

Parents who let their youngsters use cellular phones ought to be jailed. You hear that, N? Heh.

]]> By: Gail Jonas http://todbrilliant.com/mobile-phones-killing-bees/#comment-9929 Gail Jonas Thu, 06 Dec 2007 04:36:44 +0000 http://todbrilliant.com/mobile-phones-killing-bees/#comment-9929 <p>According to Elizabeth Kolbert, who writes scientific articles for the New Yorker, cellphones aren't killing bees. It's the "inbee" (similar to inhuman)conditions that are imposed on honeybees as they are treated like a commodity as they are shipping all around the country, from orchard to orchard, in tiny, packed containers. Stress plus unsanitary conditions due to croweded living conditions is creating bee colony collapse.</p> <p>Cellphones may be causing brain tumors in humans, according to Dr. Devra Davis if they are used consistently for ten years or more. Warning: Don't let your kid have a cellphone.</p> According to Elizabeth Kolbert, who writes scientific articles for the New Yorker, cellphones aren’t killing bees. It’s the “inbee” (similar to inhuman)conditions that are imposed on honeybees as they are treated like a commodity as they are shipping all around the country, from orchard to orchard, in tiny, packed containers. Stress plus unsanitary conditions due to croweded living conditions is creating bee colony collapse.

Cellphones may be causing brain tumors in humans, according to Dr. Devra Davis if they are used consistently for ten years or more. Warning: Don’t let your kid have a cellphone.

]]> By: Christian K. http://todbrilliant.com/mobile-phones-killing-bees/#comment-9850 Christian K. Wed, 05 Dec 2007 01:47:22 +0000 http://todbrilliant.com/mobile-phones-killing-bees/#comment-9850 <p>Hello, my class is doing a research project to learn more about the Colony Collapse Disorder. We are supposed to contact a proffesional on this subject. we have gathered information on this topic and want to know more about why cell phones are having a big impact on this problem. We also wanted to know more about how the bees effect the food chain. thanks for your time</p> Hello, my class is doing a research project to learn more about the Colony Collapse Disorder. We are supposed to contact a proffesional on this subject. we have gathered information on this topic and want to know more about why cell phones are having a big impact on this problem. We also wanted to know more about how the bees effect the food chain. thanks for your time

]]> By: larryO http://todbrilliant.com/mobile-phones-killing-bees/#comment-1621 larryO Mon, 23 Apr 2007 17:14:29 +0000 http://todbrilliant.com/mobile-phones-killing-bees/#comment-1621 <p>Ok, coming late to this party (again), but I had a great conversation with an entomologist yesterday that BLEW my mind, and really helped me to understand some aspects better... </p> <p>Here is an article that the person participated in, and it is a pretty good read:</p> <p>http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0404/p13s01-sten.html</p> <p>The research is based on two German guys experiment, putting the phone into a hive to gauge the reaction. So, whilst important as an indication of one aspect of the complicated potential impact of our technologies on another species - it completely overlooked the basic problem of the situation. </p> <p>If anyone is interested here are the main points gleaned from my conversation:</p> <p>The problem is with Honey bees - and only honey bees at the minute.</p> <p>US agriculture is heavily reliant on honey bees (specifically) - as the hives can be shut for periods of time allowing for heavy pesticide usage to happen.</p> <p>The colony collapse has a huge impact on the process of our agriculture farming, but will inevitably force the process to change to a system which will be less dependent on pesticides, more agricultural diversity and space, etc.</p> <p>Lastly, the colony collpase isn't a new problem, instead a problem which has been building for some time and is now reaching a critical point... Mites, diet, and movement of the honey bees are all part of the issue. </p> <p>Sorry for the late submission, just thought people would be interested... larryO</p> Ok, coming late to this party (again), but I had a great conversation with an entomologist yesterday that BLEW my mind, and really helped me to understand some aspects better…

Here is an article that the person participated in, and it is a pretty good read:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0404/p13s01-sten.html

The research is based on two German guys experiment, putting the phone into a hive to gauge the reaction. So, whilst important as an indication of one aspect of the complicated potential impact of our technologies on another species - it completely overlooked the basic problem of the situation.

If anyone is interested here are the main points gleaned from my conversation:

The problem is with Honey bees - and only honey bees at the minute.

US agriculture is heavily reliant on honey bees (specifically) - as the hives can be shut for periods of time allowing for heavy pesticide usage to happen.

The colony collapse has a huge impact on the process of our agriculture farming, but will inevitably force the process to change to a system which will be less dependent on pesticides, more agricultural diversity and space, etc.

Lastly, the colony collpase isn’t a new problem, instead a problem which has been building for some time and is now reaching a critical point… Mites, diet, and movement of the honey bees are all part of the issue.

Sorry for the late submission, just thought people would be interested…
larryO

]]> By: todb http://todbrilliant.com/mobile-phones-killing-bees/#comment-1567 todb Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:01:34 +0000 http://todbrilliant.com/mobile-phones-killing-bees/#comment-1567 <p>Kirk - If I had to go back and delete posts/statements for every time I misfired, this blog would be empty. So much of what I say is half-cocked, but then I'm not writing for a journal. The beauty of the blog - one just spews and occasionally something decent emerges. Regarding cellphone dangers, there's a whole mess of technology that ends up beaming waves over the surface of the earth (let's not get into Tesla/HAARP tech here) and I'm far from educated on the subject. . .yet . . . yet. . .the sonar effect on whales is well-documented so a similar situation with bees wouldn't surprise me.</p> Kirk - If I had to go back and delete posts/statements for every time I misfired, this blog would be empty. So much of what I say is half-cocked, but then I’m not writing for a journal. The beauty of the blog - one just spews and occasionally something decent emerges. Regarding cellphone dangers, there’s a whole mess of technology that ends up beaming waves over the surface of the earth (let’s not get into Tesla/HAARP tech here) and I’m far from educated on the subject. . .yet . . . yet. . .the sonar effect on whales is well-documented so a similar situation with bees wouldn’t surprise me.

]]> By: larryO http://todbrilliant.com/mobile-phones-killing-bees/#comment-1566 larryO Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:19:54 +0000 http://todbrilliant.com/mobile-phones-killing-bees/#comment-1566 <p>Yeah, I used the term theory very cautiously... Who knows, the guy's been right about other stuff.</p> <p>If I had to guess, it would be combinations of all of the above...</p> Yeah, I used the term theory very cautiously… Who knows, the guy’s been right about other stuff.

If I had to guess, it would be combinations of all of the above…

]]> By: Kirk T http://todbrilliant.com/mobile-phones-killing-bees/#comment-1560 Kirk T Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:20:22 +0000 http://todbrilliant.com/mobile-phones-killing-bees/#comment-1560 <p>I just read what I posted and I'm a moron.</p> <p>They are talking about the frequencies. It's been a long week.</p> I just read what I posted and I’m a moron.

They are talking about the frequencies. It’s been a long week.

]]> By: Kirk T http://todbrilliant.com/mobile-phones-killing-bees/#comment-1559 Kirk T Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:17:53 +0000 http://todbrilliant.com/mobile-phones-killing-bees/#comment-1559 <p>Actually, the more I think about this study, the more it bothers me. I can understand bees being effected by EMF around powerlines; I mean those buggers are spitting out massive amounts of it. But EMF is also a result of the amount of current passing though them (3 watts for cell phones vs 1000 watts for powerlines). Cell phones, on the other hand, emit very little EMF, unless you are sticking it right next to you (bad for us). </p> <p>Their experiment with placing a cell phone next to a hive seems very simplistic. I mean, would there need to be a phone by every hive in order for this to work?</p> <p>Now, the actual frequencies used to transmit the data from the phone to the tower, that's another story.</p> Actually, the more I think about this study, the more it bothers me. I can understand bees being effected by EMF around powerlines; I mean those buggers are spitting out massive amounts of it. But EMF is also a result of the amount of current passing though them (3 watts for cell phones vs 1000 watts for powerlines). Cell phones, on the other hand, emit very little EMF, unless you are sticking it right next to you (bad for us).

Their experiment with placing a cell phone next to a hive seems very simplistic. I mean, would there need to be a phone by every hive in order for this to work?

Now, the actual frequencies used to transmit the data from the phone to the tower, that’s another story.

]]> By: Lucky http://todbrilliant.com/mobile-phones-killing-bees/#comment-1558 Lucky Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:02:49 +0000 http://todbrilliant.com/mobile-phones-killing-bees/#comment-1558 <p>This is a great information. You can get more interesting info that medical physicians around the world are saying about the effects of cell phones and electromagnetic frequencies.For more information http://www.harmonicplanet.com</p> <p><a href="www.harmonicplanet.com" rel="nofollow"> </a></p> This is a great information. You can get more interesting info that medical physicians around the world are saying about the effects of cell phones and electromagnetic frequencies.For more information http://www.harmonicplanet.com

]]> By: todb http://todbrilliant.com/mobile-phones-killing-bees/#comment-1536 todb Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:47:47 +0000 http://todbrilliant.com/mobile-phones-killing-bees/#comment-1536 <p>Oh, they're here. . .why do you think the powers that be have recruited Darth Vader??</p> Oh, they’re here. . .why do you think the powers that be have recruited Darth Vader??

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