Comments on: Bloomberg Set to Announce Weak Reduction Scheme http://todbrilliant.com/bloomberg-set-to-announce-pathetic-reduction-scheme/ Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:42:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: larryO http://todbrilliant.com/bloomberg-set-to-announce-pathetic-reduction-scheme/#comment-1624 larryO Mon, 23 Apr 2007 17:39:41 +0000 http://todbrilliant.com/bloomberg-set-to-announce-pathetic-reduction-scheme/#comment-1624 <p>Ok, so I was in New York when this came out and had the nice opportunity to speak with some locals to see what their thoughts were. </p> <p>Generally, their impressions were positive - with most of them bringing up the crazy bureaucracy present in the city. A theme that repeated again and again, was getting all of the different areas of town to commit to such a plan, and how difficult that would be.</p> <p>So generally, I started to think hey this is a pretty big achievement.</p> <p>But then I started thinking of it as a negotiation, a starting point, and my perspective changed a lot. I mean Bloomberg's opening bid was 30 percent - which will most likely be reduced down to 10 or 15 percent.</p> <p>If he had started with 50, or even 60 percent then we'd be ending up with around 30.... But, then again maybe people would have rejected it outright.</p> <p>If he sticks to 30 percent and gets it - it is a fantastic result. But with a new mayor election coming, I doubt the 30 percent will stick... But that could also be an opportunity to get 40 - 50 percent using voter pressure.</p> <p>Sorry for rambling. larryO</p> Ok, so I was in New York when this came out and had the nice opportunity to speak with some locals to see what their thoughts were.

Generally, their impressions were positive - with most of them bringing up the crazy bureaucracy present in the city. A theme that repeated again and again, was getting all of the different areas of town to commit to such a plan, and how difficult that would be.

So generally, I started to think hey this is a pretty big achievement.

But then I started thinking of it as a negotiation, a starting point, and my perspective changed a lot. I mean Bloomberg’s opening bid was 30 percent - which will most likely be reduced down to 10 or 15 percent.

If he had started with 50, or even 60 percent then we’d be ending up with around 30…. But, then again maybe people would have rejected it outright.

If he sticks to 30 percent and gets it - it is a fantastic result. But with a new mayor election coming, I doubt the 30 percent will stick… But that could also be an opportunity to get 40 - 50 percent using voter pressure.

Sorry for rambling.
larryO

]]> By: todb http://todbrilliant.com/bloomberg-set-to-announce-pathetic-reduction-scheme/#comment-1581 todb Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:30:18 +0000 http://todbrilliant.com/bloomberg-set-to-announce-pathetic-reduction-scheme/#comment-1581 <p>Judith - </p> <p>Okay, I have to agree with you. We need any and all progress so that we can hope for larger strides to be tacked on. I think this is true, and do understand endorsing Bloomberg, yet if we don't IMMEDIATELY AND VOCIFEROUSLY demand more, I'm afraid we'll get only what we get. Appeasement, after all, is the name of the political game, no? So, while I really don't blame anyone for clapping at Bloomy's announcement (and I am heartened by all progress, actually), I've taken it upon myself to be one of the heckling 'not-enoughers' - at least in my blog and online persona. </p> <p>Thanks for the kind words. Your meth/gonzales piece is amazing. Your blog http://blogs.laweekly.com/judith_lewis/ is one of the best out there as you say what needs to be said to an audience that is among the largest and most influential. Keep stepping it up! Oh, and that piece on Avaaz - 100% dead on.</p> Judith -

Okay, I have to agree with you. We need any and all progress so that we can hope for larger strides to be tacked on. I think this is true, and do understand endorsing Bloomberg, yet if we don’t IMMEDIATELY AND VOCIFEROUSLY demand more, I’m afraid we’ll get only what we get. Appeasement, after all, is the name of the political game, no? So, while I really don’t blame anyone for clapping at Bloomy’s announcement (and I am heartened by all progress, actually), I’ve taken it upon myself to be one of the heckling ‘not-enoughers’ - at least in my blog and online persona.

Thanks for the kind words. Your meth/gonzales piece is amazing. Your blog http://blogs.laweekly.com/judith_lewis/ is one of the best out there as you say what needs to be said to an audience that is among the largest and most influential. Keep stepping it up! Oh, and that piece on Avaaz - 100% dead on.

]]> By: Judith Lewis http://todbrilliant.com/bloomberg-set-to-announce-pathetic-reduction-scheme/#comment-1580 Judith Lewis Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:12:51 +0000 http://todbrilliant.com/bloomberg-set-to-announce-pathetic-reduction-scheme/#comment-1580 <p>Yeah, Tod! I get so pissed off about these huge celebration over these sort of ornamental gestures to reduce carbon emissions. Right: Tell Bloomberg that's really nice and you're really happy he cares, but 30 percent by 2030 is not exactly going to free the people. </p> <p>But 30 percent in a quarter of a century is better than nothing, and sometimes these things have a way of building on themselves. Here in L.A., the Department of Water and Power first had a 20 percent renewable energy goal set for 2017; when other people saying they'd do the same by 2010, the DWP stepped it up and aimed for 2010, too (and they're really going to do it).</p> <p>I really enjoy your blog, by the way. More fun than your average eco-blog, and just as good for you.</p> Yeah, Tod! I get so pissed off about these huge celebration over these sort of ornamental gestures to reduce carbon emissions. Right: Tell Bloomberg that’s really nice and you’re really happy he cares, but 30 percent by 2030 is not exactly going to free the people.

But 30 percent in a quarter of a century is better than nothing, and sometimes these things have a way of building on themselves. Here in L.A., the Department of Water and Power first had a 20 percent renewable energy goal set for 2017; when other people saying they’d do the same by 2010, the DWP stepped it up and aimed for 2010, too (and they’re really going to do it).

I really enjoy your blog, by the way. More fun than your average eco-blog, and just as good for you.

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